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Tree Health spongebob 12/28/2007
I had a request by a tree specialist to scan a tree. I suggested that compressed air be sprayed inside the suspected dead areas after a sunny day. The air may show colder in the scan.
Any thoughts, as I don't think this will work.
Peter
 
Re:Tree Health Bob Rogers 12/31/2007
warm air might be better. It will be difficult to contain given the porosity of the tree area you wish to inject the air. I agree, difficult if not impossible.
 
Re:Tree Health gioga2008 9/13/2008
I introduced thermal imaging on trees to detect decay and/or cavities in 1984 and I don't need to inject any air nor to do anything on the tree. You can reed my papers that you can find on the Internet or I can send on request. I have been measuring thousands of trees since 1984 and in some cases I have tested the results with invasive instruments or by felling the trees.
Giorgio
 
Re:Tree Health Lex 9/13/2008
Giorgio,

I am interested is reading your papers on this subject. Could you send any information to mark@pixelthermographics.co.uk

Thanks.
 
Re:Tree Health manuel-thermoimagen 9/14/2008
gioga2008 wrote:
duced thermal imaging on trees to detect decay and/or cavities in 1984 and I don't need to inject any air nor to do anything on the tree. You can reed my papers that you can find on the Internet or I can send on request. I have been measuring thousands of trees since 1984 and in some cases I have tested the results with invasive instruments or by felling the trees.
Giorgio
Giorgio:

if possible, would like to receive a copy of paper on thermal imaging on trees, or the link where i can download it..

thanx & best regards
roberto.cruz@thermoimagen.com
 
Re:Tree Health gioga2008 9/15/2008
Bob Rogers wrote:
r might be better. It will be difficult to contain given the porosity of the tree area you wish to inject the air. I agree, difficult if not impossible.
I introduced thermal imaging on trees to detect decay and/or cavities in 1984 and I don't need to inject any air nor to do anything on the tree. You can reed my papers that you can find on the Internet or I can send on request. I have been measuring thousands of trees since 1984 and in some cases I have tested the results with invasive instruments or by felling the trees.
Giorgio
 
Re:Tree Health gioga2008 9/15/2008
spongebob wrote:
request by a tree specialist to scan a tree. I suggested that compressed air be sprayed inside the suspected dead areas after a sunny day. The air may show colder in the scan.
Any thoughts, as I don't think this will work.
Peter
I introduced thermal imaging on trees to detect decay and/or cavities in 1984 and I don't need to inject any air nor to do anything on the tree. You can reed my papers that you can find on the Internet or I can send on request. I have been measuring thousands of trees since 1984 and in some cases I have tested the results with invasive instruments or by felling the trees.
Giorgio
 
Re:Tree Health JKEngineer 9/16/2008
Giorgio:
I would be glad to read your online articles, but you have not given us very good pointers to enable us to find them.

I actually did a google search for infrared and Giorgio. I found that there are a lot of Giorgios in the infrared industry.

How about a little more information? Such as: your last name, your affiliation, or links.
Jack
 
Re:Tree Health gioga2008 9/18/2008
JKEngineer wrote:
:
I would be glad to read your online articles, but you have not given us very good pointers to enable us to find them.

I actually did a google search for infrared and Giorgio. I found that there are a lot of Giorgios in the infrared industry.

How about a little more information? Such as: your last name, your affiliation, or links.
Jack
If you give me your email address I can send you the last paper.
Regards
Giorgio
 
Re:Tree Health JKEngineer 9/18/2008
Thanks, here it is.

Jack M. Kleinfeld, P.E.
Kleinfeld Technical Services, Inc.
Infrared Thermography, Finite Element Analysis, Process Engineering


JKEngineer@aol.com or JKEngineer@KleinfeldTechnical.com
come see what we can do for you: http://www.KleinfeldTechnical.com
 
Re:Tree Health CreativeIR 9/22/2008
I also would like to receive any information on scanning trees. Email - keith.fuller@creativeinfrared.com

Thanks
 
Re:Tree Health HITECHSOLUTIONS 9/24/2008
I would also like to read this paper
please email JoshuaPage@infraredhitech.com
 
Re:Tree Health Laland 10/1/2008
Please provide me the article. Here is my email address..

cebu@spectrumscientificcorporation.com or roland.alcos@spectrumscientificcorporation.com
 
Re:Tree Health WCT 10/2/2008
gioga2008 wrote:
If you give me your email address I can send you the last paper.
Regards
Giorgio
I'd like to see that paper too, very interesting.

Thanks,

deronjohnston@gmail.com
 
Re:Tree Health fazlye 10/2/2008
i am also interested with the paper too.

Please email me at fazlye@ranhill-utw.com.my
 
Re:Tree Health KB Wright 10/25/2008
gioga2008 wrote:
If you give me your email address I can send you the last paper.
Regards
Giorgio
Giorgio, I am also interested in reading your papers on this subject.

Please send them to: kathleenbwright@cox.net

Thank you.
 
Re:Tree Health Infrafoto 10/31/2008
gioga2008 wrote:
duced thermal imaging on trees to detect decay and/or cavities in 1984 and I don't need to inject any air nor to do anything on the tree. You can reed my papers that you can find on the Internet or I can send on request. I have been measuring thousands of trees since 1984 and in some cases I have tested the results with invasive instruments or by felling the trees.
Giorgio
Lots of interested people in this topic, I also would like to receive any information on scanning trees. Email - kontakt@mastfoto.se
 
Re:Tree Health Kiwi 11/6/2008
gioga2008 wrote:
If you give me your email address I can send you the last paper.
Regards
Giorgio
Sorry to add more work, but could please send me a copy as well. aaron@infraredsolutions.co.nz have you had any luck locating termites in trees?

Thank you
 
Re:Tree Health gioga2008 11/6/2008
I have never measured termites (in Italy they are not usual): I've only measured cerambicides (Cerambyx cerdo) on living quercus. I think that as thermography can point out the presence of decay and cavities in living trees, I'm quite sure you can make evident the presence of termites in living trees (that, if I'm not wrong, make devastating attacks destroying the wood). For a skilled user it's possible to point out a single cerambicide hole, so depending on the dimensions of a thermite hole, you could even point out their presence (but this is to be measured - I repeat I have never measured termites). I send you my papers to your email address. Do not hesitate to let me know more about your tests and findings.
Best regards
Giorgio
 
Re:Tree Health Top Gun 11/7/2008
In Michigan, an introduced Asian pest known as the emerald ash borer has been destroying millions of ash trees. Adults of his insect burrow into the bark and into the cambium layer, lay eggs, and dies. The eggs hatch, the larvae burrow all around the nearby live tree cambium and destroy the flow of nutrients from the leaves to the roots, and the tree dies. Our neighbor had three 12” to 15” trees in their yard that started showing signs of the pest: sprouts at odd places on the trunk and thick limbs, away from the crown.
I picked out a calm morning, after a cool night in the summer, when the temperature was rebounding relatively quickly, trying to take advantage of any difference in heat capacity of the bark and underlying undamaged or damaged cambium layer. I presumed that there would be a different heat conductivity through the cambium and bark from the wood part of the tree (xylem, or sapwood) based on whether or not the cambium layer was disturbed.
I closely inspected these trees with my Agema 570 with its 320 by 240 detector. I could not see any variations whatsoever in temperatures of the surface of the bark, sunlit side or shadow side. So I just concluded that IR was ineffective under these circumstances to detect this kind of pest. It would have been great if IR would see this pest readily, as we could then use it to identify infected trees and remove them immediately, and destroy the pests in progress.
 
Re:Tree Health gioga2008 11/10/2008
I've already posted a replay that doesn't appear: maybe I made a wrong connection. Anyway, I agree with you that unfortunately thermography is unable to detect these pests because the hole they produce doesn't create any thermal effect. It's only a physical damage that makes the tree to die at it would happen if s.o. makes lots of holes all along the trunk. You can only see the hole on the bark, not the internal burrow. Only if an attack creates a thermal effect (e.g., a fungal infection or a bacteria attack or maybe termites that create a nest-read my answer to kiwi) thermography points out this effect.
Giorgio
 
Re:Tree Health Aeroworks 11/11/2008
gioga2008 wrote:
I introduced thermal imaging on trees to detect decay and/or cavities in 1984 and I don't need to inject any air nor to do anything on the tree. You can reed my papers that you can find on the Internet or I can send on request. I have been measuring thousands of trees since 1984 and in some cases I have tested the results with invasive instruments or by felling the trees.
Giorgio
I would be interested in receiveng info. that you have on this matter. Thank you
 
Re:Tree Health gioga2008 11/11/2008
to Aeroworks:
you have forgotten to give your email address.
Giorgio
 
Re:Tree Health IR Judy 12/9/2008
Aeroworks wrote:
I would be interested in receiveng info. that you have on this matter. Thank you
Hello - I would also like very much to read your paper as I am botha Forester and a thermographer. It sounds very...interesting! Thank you -Judy E-mail: raveninfrared@gmail.com
 
Re:Tree Health chris. 1/7/2009
gioga2008 wrote:
duced thermal imaging on trees to detect decay and/or cavities in 1984 and I don't need to inject any air nor to do anything on the tree. You can reed my papers that you can find on the Internet or I can send on request. I have been measuring thousands of trees since 1984 and in some cases I have tested the results with invasive instruments or by felling the trees.
Giorgio
I am interested in reading your papers on this subject. Could you send any information to christian_fleurent@viarail.ca

Regards
 
Re:Tree Health DK67 4/16/2009
Hi

Could you send me your tree paper.

Thanks

Dave
dave at chichester dot f9 dot co dot uk
 
Re:Tree Health redpecan 8/7/2009
Giorgio,

I am interested in reading your paper on tree health.

Send to sumride@nc.rr.com

Steve Poole/Raleigh
919 779-2441

Thanks
 
Re:Tree Health jimS3 9/15/2009
Giorgio:

Could you please send me a copy of your paper also?

info@s3imaging.com

thanks, Jim
 
Re:Tree Health NigelKo 12/1/2009
Giogio,
We found some decay and new growth on the branching areas. However, we cannot find decay.
Please kindly let us have a copy of your paper as reference.
My e-mail is: nigeloko@gmail.com

Thanks a lot.
 
Re:Tree Health Arno 7/29/2010
Hello Georgio,

Maybe a bit late, but when it's possible to recieve a copy I am interested it's welcome at welcome@worldofwarmth.com .

I make a lot of tree-scans as well, but not with a focus on health, but on the cooling capacity of the tree in an urban environment. Which takes a healty tree ofcourse, but is more about comparing species. Basically I am looking for the "best cooling shadetree of the world". Did you come across any findings from this point of view as well?

Warm regards,

Arno
 
Re:Tree Health tleblanc 8/5/2010
i would like to see your papers
thanks
tleblanc@turner-industries.com
 
Re:Tree Health gioga2008 9/26/2010
Arno wrote:
eorgio,

Maybe a bit late, but when it's possible to recieve a copy I am interested it's welcome at welcome@worldofwarmth.com .

I make a lot of tree-scans as well, but not with a focus on health, but on the cooling capacity of the tree in an urban environment. Which takes a healty tree ofcourse, but is more about comparing species. Basically I am looking for the "best cooling shadetree of the world". Did you come across any findings from this point of view as well?

Warm regards,

Arno
Hello,
I haven't used Treethermography for such an use, I'd like to have more information on it and on your findings. If you visit my website at URL www.treethermography.it you can find some information on the method and some papers in english. Regards
Giorgio
 
Re:Tree Health gioga2008 9/26/2010
Hello tleblank,
you can visit my website at www.treethermography.it where you can find some papers in English
Regards
Giorgio
 
Re:Tree Health wendy 12/20/2010
Giorgio,

I would be interested in reading your papers, could you send contact information, or links to bchomeip@shaw.ca

Thanks in advance
Wendy
 
Re:Tree Health gioga2008 12/27/2010
You can find some papers in English and some details on the method at my Website www.treethermography.it
Regards
Giorgio
 
Re:Tree Health NigelKo 12/5/2011
Dear Giorgio,
Could I have your paper as a reference?

Pls. send to nigel@infrared.hk.

VBR
Nigel
 


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